secretary panetta is on record opposing those. no one wants those to happen. so that is not the plan of this president in any shape or form. what is the plan of this president is a plan that he devised with the full participation and support of the joint chiefs of staff and the combatant commanders, and it lays out a four-year defense plan that keeps our military, the best in the world, and keeps faith with the troops and their families. >> all right. we're going to have to leave it there, and obviously we'll be paying very close attention to the debate with these two regarding foreign policy. that will be the third and final debate between the two. thank you very much. appreciate it. >>> he faced his strongest challenge yet, and he won, but despite his victory, hugo chavez still has obstacles to overcome. we'll take a look at the path forward for the venezuelan president as well as his country. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. why they're always there to talk. i love yo